Interfaith Pig Roast

Never say that I'm not open-minded.
I will be at Jim 'n' Nicks Inverness at 7pm tomorrow Thurs. June 29. All are invited to attend. If anyone has objections to the venue then please comment. I would like to meet others that are concerned that islam is the enemy to us, that the koran, centuries of tradition, and current acts of violence would clearly suggest. It would also be interesting to meet anyone who thinks otherwise.

Mr. Beamish offers some consolation to those of us concerned about Bush's "Religion of Peace" mantra.

And, I recently rediscovered a bama blogger which has been posting excellent vids on YouTube.

Nobody "stirs the puddin'" like Boortz.

"The High Priest of the Church of the Painful Truth" which can be heard 8am-1pm Eastern Time on your local affiliate or through a webcast here, has for some time been giving voice to the painful truth that islam is no religion of peace.

Most recently, Crusader18 has added images and posted on YouTube, a sample
of Neal Boortz's sermonizing.

Youtube has a popularity driven ranking system that dictates what videos are featured.(meaning they are on a short list, provided on the front page, all others must be searched for)
Your comments and ratings can help videos such as this posted by CRUSADER18 and those posted by other anti-jihadist videographers: pimsghost, Ghostwolf,SystemF, and atlasshrugs2000 to be featured on what some have begun to call Dhimmi tube.

GRIPE

I will be at the bar at Jim 'n' Nicks Inverness tomorrow, Thurs. 7pm. I would be glad to meet anyone that would like to discuss islam.

I remain convinced that islam is, perhaps not a unique, but a present danger. Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, nor the Spanish Inquisition are much of a threat to my current way of life. Islam still wages jihad against all infidels, which I happen to be. Yes, islam has been in a constant state of war since its inception. The only peace in islam is through "hudna" and hypocrisy. Moderate muslims, are either prevaricating, ignorant, or haven't the courage to declare apostasy.

Many of islam's apologist like to point out:

violent occurrences in Christianity's past

• suggesting that it would be unfair to judge islam by the acts of a supposed tiny minority.
• Should the actions of this supposed minority (if indeed it is a minority) not at least raise the question? And once the question is raised, should not some correlation between the supposed minorities actions be attempted between the written history of the faith. Isn't it context that is meant to ameliorate the harsh calls for infidel death in the koran. Christianity has a distinctly different context that it's violent acts occurred. Compared to the acts and words of Christ, violence is a clear anomaly. The actions of this supposed tiny minority compared to, violent passages of the koran, and the example of mohamhead, reveal a clear pattern.
• inferring that islam can over time moderate
• If this is true, then why recoil from encouraging a process by which it might progress? It is rare that these same apologist recoil from pointing out the past occurrences of violence of Christians, (who incidentally aren't likely to behead said apologist for their perceived insolence)

I am planning to attend a showing of What the West Needs to Know July 7-13 at Atlanta Midtown Art Cinema.

Harper's Mews believes that islam is a religion of peace.

I recently discovered that I had left a discussion unfinished at The Muhammad Cartoons — Who Is Sillier?

By maccusgermanis on 03.06.06 9:57 pm
On what do you base your belief that islam is a peaceful religion?
An apostate, who has taken the name Ali Sina, adresses this misconception. http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40908.htm

By Bruce -- Harper Blue on 03.11.06 10:19 am
I would base it on the past history of Muslims up until recent years, and even today for a large number — the overwhelming majority, indeed — of the Muslim population. Just as we say or claim that Islam has no reason to condemn the whole of Christianity for the acts of a relative handful in the Crusades and other times, so I would point out that we cannot condemn the whole of Islam. Most of the faith’s followers are peaceful, law-abiding and yet quite observant. The acts of the extremist minority, on the other hand, who have been incited by the clerics for either a highly conservative religious agenda, or hidden political purposes, are the ones that get all the attention…and thus tar all of the faithful with the same brush.
The maxim, “Don’t judge a book by its cover,” applies to the Middle East as well as to the United States. Consider this in future.

By MaccusGermanis on 06.16.06 5:16 pm
I feel I must apologize for my tardiness in rejoining this discussion. I had not realised that you had rather sanctimoniously responded to me.
You would do well to “consider” “in the future” that you should avoid using broad generalizations in critiqueing such generalizations. In my comment, I did post a link to a site created and maintained by former muslims. The generalizations that they make are of a more intimate variety and much more useful than your platitudes concerning “the overwhelming majority” of muslims. Please understand that these former muslims have come from that overwhelming majority of muslims, ignorant (just as most christians) of their faith.
You would do well to “consider” “in the future” that muslims have found themselves inspired to violence in more than just the past few years. In fact that muslims had looted Rome in 836 AD, well before the Catholic Church had consolidated its influence on Europe enough to answer the call for help coming from a beseiged Eastern Orthodox Church in 1095 AD.

By harperbruce on 06.18.06 12:43 am

"You would do well to “consider” “in the future” that muslims have found themselves inspired to violence in more than just the past few years. "

As have Christians, and those who proclaim themselves Christians, as well.

You so readily concede on one of your basis that islam is a religion of peace?

Unfortunately, as I noted in the main article, the key ingredient here is the human factor, the behavior of the disciples of whichever faith, [is]not of the faith itself.

Duh!, That is rather the point of reading what apostates, learned in the koran, hadith, and sunna have to say about their discarded religion.

Those examples you note of Muslim behavior can be countered by everything from the acts of the Crusaders (no, we cannot forget about them)
I do not ask for you to forget about them. I do ask that you get the dates right.

to the Spanish Inquisition
What about the Reconquista? Surely muslims were pissed off when leaving the Iberian land that they had violently occupied

, to Serbians in more recent times.
I'm guessing you've never heard of the Handzar SS.

You create a dangerous standard by making excuses for the actions of muslims. Every example of violence you have mentioned is predated by muslim aggression. If you wish to take a stand against the general principle of violence then you must be against islam, which is most consistently encouraging of violence.

I’m afraid this is a case of “You must believe what you will, for I will believe what I will,
Is that why comments are turned off?

and we can both produce evidence to supposedly support our claims.
EVIDENTLY NOT!!!

I wish that some consensus or via media could be reached here;
Well here I am.

but, as I also pointed out in the main article above, it does not appear likely.
We agree on .....that.....um...

I can only add this, spoken by a notoriously independent thinker — Thomas Jefferson — and which appears occasionally from my quote jar on the sidebar:
“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship,…”

Jefferson was clearly mistaken. Belief and faith are, of necessity personal matters to be rightly described as lying "solely between man and his God," but religion is a social endeavor of like minded peoples. This discussion began as you tried to equate the publication of cartoons with world wide eruptions of violence. Said eruptions of violence being perpetrated by muslims. They do so in full harmony with the example set for them by mohamhead.

Surprising Iranians (Pleasantly)

I've thought that Ahmadinejad may have some terrible surprise planned for the West, but this was a pleasant surprise.

The above image, I found at jihadwatch.org

In the post,
June 16, 2006
Paris: "Persian Royalists" protest Russia-China-Iran axis

Mr. Spencer points out that the square flag under the banner is a royal symbol called the "draphshe." Commenters listed a web-site maintained by the would-be shah.

Amilimani.com was another pleasant surprise I found through the new Faithfreedom.org
I enjoyed this animation found there, and of course it's always nice to find someone who writes the below of "America, the Beacon to the World"

Friday, 31 March 2006

"The vast land of America was once inhabited by a relatively small number of indigenous people. These native “Indians” had lived throughout the land for thousands of years, and they will always remain the true fathers of America. American Indians helped the Pilgrims survive the winter. Later, more European immigrants came, and American settlement finally outgrew the Indian fathers.Then, on July 4, 1776, America declared its independence from England, the old white grandfather across the sea. The miracle of America happened, and its dynamic birth rapidly changed the entire world.
America developed into thirteen colonies, then into the strong 50 states that she is today. In a very short time, America grew from a log cabin to the largest and most technologically powerful economy in the world. The United States is a nonpareil icon, and the envy of the world.
In many surprising ways, America resembles the great, ancient Persian Empire. Like the Persians, who rarely regret the past, Americans always believe “the best days are ahead.” Like the ancient Persian Empire once was, the United States is now the greatest country in the world.Like the ancient Persians who were the first world managers and the most tolerant empire-builders, America, with its Constitution, is also the most tolerant and benevolent nation in the world. Ancient Persian kings released the Jews from Babylonian captivity, financed the reestablishment of their nation, and restored their national religion. (Zionists, they were!)
America has basically done the same. America is, in a strange sense, a reincarnation of Persia, an extension of the Achaemanid Empire. No wonder the immigrant Persians (Iranian-Americans) hold the United States very close to their heart and have blossomed here in their new home.
Unfortunately, tragedy reigns in the land of the old Persians. The remnants of great Persian Empire were swallowed up by the Muslim conquerors storming out of Arabia. A tyrannical version of Islam eviscerated the spiritual life of tolerant old Persia. It has taken decades for the Persians (modern Iranians) to recover their spirit. Zoroastrianism, the original Iranian religion, was not an effective barrier against the radical, murderous version of the religion from the Arabian Desert, and Zoroastrianism has not rebounded with the new Persian nationalism today.
The Persian renaissance lies in the spirit of the Iranians themselves. This spirit alone can overcome the Islamists who rule as tyrants.
Islam, as it is officially practiced in Iran today, is a stultifying, iron cowl. Today, after 1400 years, militant Islam is again the greatest threat to existence of the free world and Judeo-Crhistian civilization. Persians underestimated the power of militant aggressive Islam, something America must not do the second time.
It was apparent on September 11, 2001 that Americans had already underestimated the power of Islamicist madness. There must be no weakness in American resolve now.
That day also proved as never before that ordinary people can do extraordinary things. Ordinary people became heroes in care and compassion. Heroes appear when circumstances call upon them. Heroes make sacrifices to achieve positive change.
We the people should join hands with heroes today and express our love for America. America is far more than a country. It is a place of greatness, where the souls of Indians still dwell side by side with modern heroes. Native Americans, a group with a proud military heritage of patriotic service, see that America is in grave danger, and all heroes, past and present, need to unite to preserve America.
America is the last haven of hope where humanity can flourish. The world owes a great deal to America for inspiration and practical accomplishment. A true American is generous. Americans have helped every other nation in the world. America’s enemies decry her greatness, yet they want to be in America, and to be American.
A Pakistani newspaper allegedly offered of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American. So, an Australian dentist wrote the following: “Let everyone know what an American is so he’ll know when he’s found one. An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek or Persian.”
An American is forever a Comanche, a Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or any of the people known as Native Americans. An American might also be a Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, or a Muslim who has learned to put his religion in its proper place.
So try to kill an American. Hitler tried. So did General Tojo, Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung. Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, anywhere, is an “American.” Americans have defined freedom. " amilimani

Political grievances of muslims.

In an interview on the Phil Hendrie Show, Dean Wheeler provides a list of "legitimate political grievances" that we could address, that would make our societies less offensive to muslims. Ghostwolf on Youtube has added images.

Vulcan moons allah (maybe)

I still harbor sympathies (fat lot of good that is doing anybody) with the blue revolution (of France), and their most ardent neo-covenanter Canadian supporters (NoDhimmitude). I can be found, until further notice, at Jim n' Nicks in Inverness at 7pm on Thursdays.

Alabamans may be interested to know that A mosque is to be built overlooking I-65 in Hoover and that the Muslim Student Association seems to have done rather well in the runoff elections at University of South Alabama. Why does it matter? -or the question asked differently, Why am I such a "bigot"?- Truly, when the Baptists build a new structure neighbors don't get overly excited, unless one happens to be a liquor store owner with limited parking in the rear lot. Neither does the community at large get much involved in Student Government.

The USA elections concern me because, I wonder what this may mean for the freedom to publish for the Vanguard, since back in Feb. the Muslim Student Association got all worked up about the defense of free speech found in said Vanguard. As I recall the writer, of the defense, even called the infamous 12 cartoons - evidently, we infidels aren't supposed to draw mohamhead - "in bad taste."

The mosque may be a qualified asset. (of course I don't live near it) Many people in Alabama suffer still from a "it couldn't possibly happen here" mentality. (Even though H. Rap Brown was captured in Lowdes and the DC snipers killed a liquor store clerk in Montgomery) Soon minarets may (I've not seen architects plans) rise from Shades Mtn. in clear view from many parts of the city menacingly close to I-65. I'm still unclear as to how the "moon over homewood" may present itself to the site.